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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章黃金po » 2004-05-31, 13:13

NetNetBoy 寫:用45手持影人... 都唔係好重姐...
我都影左張... 老餅的背影啦... :lol:

超人話... 佢用這些45機來影Snap tim la...
:roll:

go go go

OldCake 寫:
yick 寫::shock: :shock: :shock:


yick.............go go go............. :twisted:


scan from CP, apologize for the bad quality. :twisted:
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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章黃金po » 2004-05-31, 13:19

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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章黃金po » 2004-05-31, 13:19

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文章kiev » 2004-05-31, 13:38

[fotoman have some major problems.

>>>1) You can only focus by guess, no groung glass, no rf. You can see out focus problem with his own sample photos catalogue.
佢中途退片的其中一個"功能"便是可用 groung glass 對焦。但 groung glass 可能要自己配!

>>>2) Too heavy.
D100 + 80~400 的 重量

>>>3) No movements allowed.
除天價的 Gilde 66-617 外,很多617都冇!
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文章mickey_mouse » 2004-05-31, 13:59

>>>>1) You can only focus by guess, no groung glass, no rf. You can see out focus problem with his own sample photos catalogue.
>佢中途退片的其中一個"功能"便是可用 groung glass 對焦。但 groung glass 可能要自己配!

One 120 only get 4 exposures, do you think 中途退片 really a good method to focus? How to ensure the camera not moving when 中途退片 is another great problem.

>>>>2) Too heavy.
>D100 + 80~400 的 重量

I can only say that you are very strong and much stronger than me. I just believe that fotoman need not to be made from a block of concrete metal. I tried to hold it and comments that I would not try to carry it outdoor.
The World is 3D, Why take only 2D photos?
B&W. 617, 612, 45, 69, 67, 66, 135, APS-C
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文章mickey_mouse » 2004-05-31, 14:05

send your address to photoman@szonline.net and ask for a catalogue. You may receive a catalogue of fotoman camera and a photo album form the camera designer. It is a very large 6" x 17" hard paper printing.

However, you may discover some photos get quite obvious focus and dof problem.

http://www.cameraunion.net/exchange/sho ... adid=23963
The World is 3D, Why take only 2D photos?
B&W. 617, 612, 45, 69, 67, 66, 135, APS-C
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文章mickey_mouse » 2004-05-31, 14:14

a better design.

I see this once in Shanghai but did not buy it. I fail to find it again. It can be used as a standalone camera or as a film back for 4x5 or 5x7 camera. Dual purpose. Also 612/617 dual purposes.

"笔者设计的617后背可用72mm、90mm、180mm和210mm镜头,附有类似4×5相机的对焦毛玻璃框,后背上装有插片板,每拍一张都可以在拍前取景对焦,装卸方式和4×5相机一样。这个后背还附有612片框,装上片框可拍摄6×12cm的画面。后背上有一个画幅变换钮,使用120胶卷可拍摄4张6×17cm画幅的底片,或6张6×12cm画幅的底片,这两种画幅都是自动过片头、自动计数、自动停片,开启后盖后计数盘也能自动复零。"

"笔者设计的这个后背装上配制的带多头螺纹镜头板和取景器,就组合为617相机,不必在4×5相机上使用,可以和617相机一样单独使用。"


http://www.chinaphotocenter.com/pop-pho ... -2p83.html
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B&W. 617, 612, 45, 69, 67, 66, 135, APS-C
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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章kiev » 2004-05-31, 14:25

fotoman 實物已看過,如果佢肯打五折俾我就買! :lol:

如果非 617 不可,返大陸用白鐵皮"才泵"個豬咀裝在 617 背算了..................
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文章mickey_mouse » 2004-05-31, 14:31

I saw this for price tag HK$8000.

http://www.chinaphotocenter.com/pop-pho ... -2p83.html

I also tried fotoman. the above one is much much lighter, cheaper, more flexible. very regret not buying the above one.

Now I DIY. version zero already past trial but just too bulky. version 1.0 will be released near year end. Much portable and with shift ability.
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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章叮噹百寶袋 » 2004-05-31, 14:44

OldCake 寫:
叮噹百寶袋 寫:好似好吸引wor.... :shock:

咁.... 唔知90mm 同150mm 咩價位呢 :shock:


一支16-35 L.........夠買二手 90+ 150 + 210 勒........... :twisted:


睇睇下... 呢樣合我用多d :

圖檔

又唔知要幾多$ :shock:
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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章mickey_mouse » 2004-05-31, 15:15

叮噹百寶袋 寫:
OldCake 寫:
叮噹百寶袋 寫:睇睇下... 呢樣合我用多d :
又唔知要幾多$ :shock:


Limited lenses can be used. Mainly short tele. Not so useful. And very expensive.

Russian get similar things with better design. this one is like a bellow while the Russian one is like a short extension tube. Wider lenses can be used. I saw one in sino centre some years ago.
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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章Panda123 » 2004-05-31, 15:43

叮噹百寶袋 寫:睇睇下... 呢樣合我用多d :

圖檔

又唔知要幾多$ :shock:


係唔係出錯圖呀 ?
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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章yick » 2004-05-31, 15:55

OldCake 寫:
叮噹百寶袋 寫:
OldCake 寫:大家定.............我己和鄒老板傾妥..........老鄒又跟..........優待餅友.........佢又賣 $5XXX

香港人、雞仔...................怏手 call 鄒老板勒..... :twisted:


我都想買返部, 不過, 可唔可以list 埋 d 鏡同埋其他 accessories 的約價呢...... :shock:


叮噹.................. :twisted:

基本套餐........

二手45片盒........每個約 $100

大陸612片盒.......約 $12xx

對焦的 hood (保護 ground glass和對焦可不用黑布)........Horseman 全新....菜鳥問係$800

對焦用 Loupe........豐儉由人

鏡頭..............視乎你勒........


:twisted:


打擊老餅大魔頭~~~ :hammer: :twisted: :evil: :lol:
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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章cco » 2004-05-31, 22:49

叮噹百寶袋 寫:
OldCake 寫:
叮噹百寶袋 寫:好似好吸引wor.... :shock:

咁.... 唔知90mm 同150mm 咩價位呢 :shock:


一支16-35 L.........夠買二手 90+ 150 + 210 勒........... :twisted:


睇睇下... 呢樣合我用多d :

圖檔

又唔知要幾多$ :shock:


報價 :?:

http://www.phootos.com/candypress/scrip ... roduct=116

:twisted:


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Re: 香港人 勿進

文章叮噹百寶袋 » 2004-05-31, 23:13

cco 寫:
叮噹百寶袋 寫:
OldCake 寫:
叮噹百寶袋 寫:好似好吸引wor.... :shock:

咁.... 唔知90mm 同150mm 咩價位呢 :shock:


一支16-35 L.........夠買二手 90+ 150 + 210 勒........... :twisted:


睇睇下... 呢樣合我用多d :

圖檔

又唔知要幾多$ :shock:


報價 :?:

http://www.phootos.com/candypress/scrip ... roduct=116

:twisted:


comments
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fet ... _id=000odg


多謝info 先 :D

不過再諗, 都係一支tse 24mm L 好過 :twisted:
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